Over and over the so called "experts" still can't get it right. But, then again they only give you an opinion for your hard earned money. Harder than being an real expert, try finding out the name of the person at the authenticating company who gave you their best guess.
IMPOSSIBLE!
Play autograph authenticator for a few minutes. The first illustration is a record album said to be signed by Liza authenticated by JSA.
Is PSA right on thier guess?
Beckett's guess is that the following is genuine.
One or both of the above is wrong. Can anyone believe that both of these signatures were signed by the same hand?
Now, let's go across the pond and see how things are different or the same. Is anyone is familiar with an outfit names Autografica?
They have an impressive 18,236 positive feedbacks. How does this signature compare with the first two illustrated above?

Answer is, it doesn't! This seller of autographs tries to impress you stating that they are a member of the U.A.C.C.
The U.A.C.C. struggling for many years finally went caput. The new U.A.C.C. has been trying for some time to ressurect and it only has 15 members. Autografica is not one of them.
I have to believe the three items illustrated above are signed by three different hands.
To put readers at ease, the following two illustrations have been hand signed by Liza Minelli.

Recommended, should you have something in your collection that comes with a COA from any of the three high profile authenticating companies, take a closer look and do your own research.
Now, you may understand why the PADAH group does not have to give a refund based on someone who spent money and got a guess from a company who claims to authenticate autographs.
See the impressive list of PADAH dealers by clicking on PADAH on this home page.
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